washington, to talk to them about this and, bill mcger in the meantime, a member of -- and former writer for george w. bush and good to see you, the bottom line, the companies say, look, shareholders, they have to tell their shareholders, we'll take a charge against earnings and used to get a tax break, to provide prescription drugs for our retired folks, and, we can't get that tax break any more and will cost us in at&t's case a billion dollars and henry welcomes man says, what! the health care reform plan is supposed to save you guys money, come down to washington and show us your e-mails and communication and prove to us that it will cost you money. >> that is beltway economics, you just force what you can't do normally. and look the problem with these guys is they are not going by the script. the script was, lower cost, more benefits, more jobs. and these write downs mean there will be less money at the corporate level for shareholders and expanding jobs and, probably less benefits for the employees. and so now they are trying to be bullied -- bully them into changing their minds. martha: you k